This last posting was kind of started as a silly little thing to have fun with. Never did I expect it to engender so much of a response. Most of the responses were simple yeses or no's, but some were well written and well thought out. While I am not in favor of disenfranchising men there were arguments that caused me to think about the issue in a realistic manner.
As mentioned in the comment section I want the same opportunities for both my son and my daughter. In a general way this includes the opportunity to contribute to society as well as earning a living. And, I love them both. I love them both equally. But, over the years my observation has been that Becky matured at a younger age than my son. Its of no importance now, but she learned to use the toilet at an earlier age than my son. From the start she was more interested in school and learning her letters. While our son was very smart he just didn't care for school. The teacher once told me he didn't yet have the maturity. Even in college he had difficulty with adjusting to the lack of supervision that comes with being away from home for the first time. There was never this type of an issue with Becky.
After college our son was able to find a job, but he had a playboy attitude towards life. As far as I know he is not submissive, but what settled him down was meeting the right girl. I am proud to say that this young lady is now our daughter in law. And together they are building a family. She is in no way what anyone would call a mistress wife, but her influence on him has been positive. He watches his weight as well as his credit score. He doesn't miss work because of a hang over or for sleeping through an alarm. She has taught him to wear the right clothes for the right occasion. There have been times when I have wondered whether she actually picks out some of what he wears. What I would say is that he is not submissive, but he is sensitive to her priorities. Does that sentence make sense to all of you?
In looking at my son an argument could have been made that his enfranchisement should have come at a later age than it did with Becky. Is this true in general? I will add to the fire by saying that in my opinion most males do not fully mature until their thirties. Over the years I have had several emails from young men who tell me that they want to have a mistress wife, or want to live as a slave to a strong woman. If they are under thirty I tell them that they probably need more maturity before making that type of a decision.
Until men reach their thirties most of them simply don't know themselves well enough to make life long commitments. In the studio most of the clients were in their forties or older. It was at a certain age that they recognized their personal need for submission. So many of the comments were the same. 'Yes, I love my wife', they would say, but they also needed a mistress in their lives. And, some of what they needed could be described as kink. Yet, much of their needs simply focused on having a lady to obey and serve. For a few of these men I was privileged to be that lady. You have no idea how many of these men wanted to come clean my house or do my ironing.
Let me know it this post is hitting a chord with any of you, or is it missing the mark.
Love, Kathy
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If you wish to turn your dughter-in-law into a Dominatrix and your son into her obedient slave probably best to just get on with it.
Keep us informed of how things develop please :-)
Hi Kathy,
My personal observations are similar to yours. On average, women seem to hit some acceptable baseline level of maturity earlier than most men. Though, as with any generalization, the differences within a group may be as varied and interesting as across groups. My kids' respective maturity levels grew at very, very different paces, and they are the same gender. One was just born "older" and wiser than the other in many respects.
You also said, "Until men reach their thirties most of them simply don't know themselves well enough to make life long commitments." That one I'm not as sure about. I was married in my 20s, and while I think many men in their 20s have a lot of maturing to do, I'm not sure that for even a majority of them that plays out as a lack of commitment.
I do think that the men who actively pursue a real D/s relationship of some sort--whether Femdom or FLR or Domestic Discipline or whatever--do tend to be older. I ran a poll on my blog a few years ago on the ages of the men who visited it and said they were in one of these kids of relationships, and I was shocked at how heavily it was tilted toward those over 50. I don't recall the number for sure, but I think it was upwards of 65%. I don't think that is about commitment, so much as self-awareness and self-confidence. I think in our 20s and 30s many of us are exploring who we want to be, and it's only in our 40s that we get a real sense of who we are, and are comfortable enough in our own skin to admit it, that we will actually pursue something like Femdom or an FLR.
It also may just be a matter of how much exposure we have to some of these "kinks." I didn't have any attraction to Domestic Discipline until my 40s, because I'd never heard of it! Some with with FLR or Femdom as a real relationship choice, as opposed to some leather and chains fantasy.
For BK, no that is not what I want to do.
Sometimes I feel like a politician or public figure. Everything I say is interpreted and sometimes reinterpreted.
But, thank you for reading and sharing.
Love, Kathy
Kathy,
It was an interesting poll you took no doubt! I think I'd have to simply say I don't think it would help things to have men not vote, though I find the idea intriguing. The idea probably carries more weight in my mind as a utopian female-led fantasy land, though I must confess I'd like to visit such a place :)
Kathy. I love your graciousness and tolerance in how you respond to your even more most cynical commenters. Thank you. You are evivdence of why we need more female and more female-minded leadership in our country and world.
vic
Ms Kathy,
I think Your post BOTH hits a chord AND misses the mark.
It hits a chord:
- You talk about how Women mature faster and I would add, mature MORE (and many men never mature AT ALL)
- How even the "non submissive" type can have sides that are very parallel to submissives, which might suggest that deep inside male submission ad Female Dominance are just a fact of life even if they are not the same for everyone, but are always there.
Misses the point:
- In that these differences should be celebrated. Part of my "men shouldn't vote" idea is "allow boys to be submissive, cute, immature if that's what they are inside and don't force them to be something they aren't. Gee, you are forcing them to take responsibilities for the country, the world, your community, telling them they are ready for those responsibilities and then complaining when things go wrong!!! Cut them loose of that and allow them to be loved for the immature beings who have OTHER gifts to bring to the table"
- Women / men both have the right NOT to be governed by who they don't want to and in view of the above, hey, I don't want to be governed by men just to please the "equality" gods. I think equality should mean same love, opportunities etc., not that everyone has the SAME ROLE IN LIFE.
Alex
I think it's a fact of life that women do mature faster than men. In elementary school they study more and usually get better grades. Having said that I was on my own at 17. I enlisted in the army and have been supporting myself since. To the general public I'm not a submissive man, but to my wife I am. No I'm not her slave, but I know in many areas she has better choices than I do. In sex I'm very submissive in that I want to give her pleasure I never was a wham-bam thank you ma'am. If I let her have sex the way she desires she will enjoy herself and in turn I'll enjoy myself. Yes my wife spanks me both for discipline and maintenance and fun. Why? Because I asked her to spank me. I was always in a high tension job and getting spanked helps me get rid of the tension. The first spanking ever from her she said I was naughty (playing sexually) and she was going to spank me. Well long story short I went across her lap and she spanked me. Not hard but a nice stinging spanking, and as she spanked I felt relaxed. A few days later I talked to her about it and she has been spanking me since. I didn't see your post on men voting but I have been around the block a few times and let me tell you we have some real "flakes" in office both in the female gender and male gender and the fault there lays with both sexes. We don't look at who we are really voting for and what they stand for and too many of us vote the party line.
archedone
Kathy,
I think the idea of equality here is wrong. One thing is equal rights and another is that everyone is fit or even should do the same things in life.
I think blind people should not drive not because I don't like them but because unfortunately it's dangerous. Point aside on whether ALL MEN, but you must admit at least some shouldn't vote for the same reason; they just can't. But we give them the ballot, they do vote, and they do so with no understanding at all of what they are doing. It's some sort of game. This is also true of SOME Women but at LEAST Women are better fit biologically and in other ways to not be like that if they don't want to. Women are in general much more mature, let's face it, and also much have the mental ability to understand deeper complex value systems, have deeper feelings and are not driven by aggression so much. I don't think anyone honest really thinks differently.
So I think only people able to participate and contribute in politics should do so!!!! The ONLY difference I see in driving a country and a cae is a country is much more complex and much more dangerous! I think ALL voters should at least pass SOME sort of test, in civics, economics and so forth before choosing how to run those very same subjects of public life.
And from what I gather most boys are simply not interested or fit for that, and also many Women and Girls aren't. All those should NOT be frowned upon, they should be loved and encouraged to develop other sides of their personality that are not political. Maybe for boys that can be housekeeping, beauty and being good lovers and maybe for some Women uninterested in politics things like business or academic life or sports or whatever They prefer. I like politics and I don't put those who don't down for it but to wrongly teach them that we expect for them to participate in politics like I do is like telling an accountant like you to participate in brain medicine surgery to show that You have "equal rights" to do so than does a brain doctor who practiced medicine 20 years of Her life. For some reason the latter is laughable but the former isn't?
Question: Why do people complain about politics when they advocate giving the rein of politics to all citizens no matter their degree of political ability? Would you complain about medicine if it was practiced how I described in the above example or would You blame Yourself?
Linda
I love that FINALLY there's open talk about this.
Alex
I think someone has to give boys permission to be the second sex. I think that is unrealistic as long as we expect from them the same things we ecpect from Women. Voting is THE symbol of this type of things. Boys, be cute, obedient, cook well and entertain the First Sex sexually. Have a happy life, don't think of too complex subjects and find a strong Woman to belong to who will protect you and lead you in life. She will do the voting
Some things are a biological reality no matter how much we are pressured to think otherwise.
Joel
Anonymous said...
"Some things are a biological reality no matter how much we are pressured to think otherwise."
Yes, for example the fact that women are biologically capable of bearing children and men are not. The human race could continue to exist without men, but not without women.
Kathy said:
"And, some of what they needed could be described as kink. Yet, much of their needs simply focused on having a lady to obey and serve."
I think that is true. What submissive males want is partly kink, and there are surely some male subs who want nothing else. However, a lot of us do feel the need to obey and serve a woman. Ideally a wife or girlfriend.
Stewart
I wanted to write more but clicked "Publish Your Comment" too soon.
Anonymous said...
"I think someone has to give boys permission to be the second sex. I think that is unrealistic as long as we expect from them the same things we ecpect from Women. Voting is THE symbol of this type of things. Boys, be cute, obedient, cook well and entertain the First Sex sexually. Have a happy life, don't think of too complex subjects and find a strong Woman to belong to who will protect you and lead you in life. She will do the voting."
What you are describing is a mirror image of the gender roles in Western society one hundred or more years ago. I do not think many people of either sex would find that desirable. I would rephrase your first sentence and say: "Someone has to give boys permission to give up their traditional role."
Stewart.
Let me propose several things to consider:
Males should stop being so defensive and start seeing things from Women’s point of view. Since Women have always had to see things from the male point of view, that would be refreshing “equality,” which so many men suddenly seem to advocate for once they are confronted with proof of female superiority.
If we do that, we might see that the bad consequences of male immaturity are enormous: for example, male violence against women includes 250,000 reported cases of sexual assault and rape each year; one in five Women will be raped in their lifetime. These are perpetrated overwhelmingly young males under thirty.
At a minimum why not have a curfew for boys under thirty? Why not have Women chaperones for male only groups of this age to keep them out of trouble?
Since males mature so much later than Women, the image of them as shy, cute, adorable, passive, followers might overtake the older patriarchal one of them as tough, stoic, dominating decision-makers. This sexualized image fits males of this age more than it does Girls and Women. Boys should try this one for size. They might like it; Women might too. That would be quality.
To those males who believe in equality, they might start spending more of their time seeing things from Women’s point of view. If boys spent even a little time doing this their precious dominating self-image would begin to crumble, And once it crumbles new ways of being male are possible, ways that are being discussed here. Gender equality in short requires wiping the slate clean of patriarchy.
L
"I think that is true. What submissive males want is partly kink, and there are surely some male subs who want nothing else. However, a lot of us do feel the need to obey and serve a woman. Ideally a wife or girlfriend."
Thank you Stewart. Well put. Kink is part of a FLR maybe in thought only. Even when caged and edged and often denied, some of us can find that enticing. To serve our woman (my case, 2 women) is the most important and praise for doing it well serves me satisfaction. Even punishment has a tinge of kink. As Ms. Kathy once said, some men test the limits to bring on humiliation and discipline intentionally.
Mistress Kathy,
You are exactly right in that girls mature earlier than boys. My son-in-law would be a poster child for that argument. It was also true with my children as well. You are also correct that a younger man doesn't have the maturity to commit to a femdom relationship. I don't think i'm over exaggerating to say that, for a man in his 20's, everything about a relationship for him is about sex. It is only later that he realizes relationships go much deeper than that. On another note, I'm digressing to earlier postings, but as we travel around, I am amazed by the number of women running for political office in both state and local elections. It seems to be happening so fast and I think it bodes well for our states and our country. At college graduations, the graduates are predominantly female and men are getting left in the dust. We have a rapidly changing paradigm and it will be interesting to see how men in our society deal with it.
Hi Kathy,
I have been thinking some more about your remark: "And, some of what they needed could be described as kink. Yet, much of their needs simply focused on having a lady to obey and serve."
How much is kink and how much is a genuine desire to obey and serve? An ex-girlfriend of mine, who was divorced, told me the following: Her ex-husband had a drink problem. When he was drunk he became aggressive and sometimes violent. However he was also masochistic. One time he brought a cane home and asked her to use it on him. She refused, because she was not into it, whereupon he became aggressive and started shouting at her. I think it is quite clear in his case that it was 100 % kink and 0 % genuine submissiveness. With men who want to clean your house or do your ironing I guess it is a lot different.
By the way, although my ex-girlfriend was not into caning or spanking, she was into bondage. I had not mentioned the subject myself, having assumed that if she was not into spanking she would not be into bondage either. However one night she said she would like to tie me up. I think it is possible that after her experience with her ex-husband, she felt safer when her male partner was helplessly tied.
Stewart.
Thank all of you for the comments.
I can very much appreciate what Richard says. Yes, some so called submissive men want 'party' kink or party type of submission. They may want to clean house, but only if mistress is watching them while holding a whip. The true submissive cleans house to please his mistress. He does it on Her schedule and according to Her protocols.
In the end I am not sure what is kink and what is not. And, does it matter. One of the women I met in the studio liked to handcuff her husband to the bed post. She would then rub her hands and tonged all over his body sometimes nibbling on the more sensitive spots. She told me it drove him while. She would sometimes let him release. She would sometimes end it by putting her hands in ice water, and save him for later. Yes, that is kinky, but so what.
As he does every morning John brings a cup coffee to me. He does a polite curtsy, give me a beautiful smile and says good morning mistress. And yes men can and do have beautiful smiles. Is this kink. On Friday morning when he brought the coffee I was in the middle of some emails that I wanted to finish before talking with him. With a quick snap of my fingers I brought him to Command Position. I allowed him to remain in Command Position for five or ten minutes while completing my work.
Yes, it does feel good to be the one in control. Yet, for the submissive man my suspicion is that it also feels good to be under the control of a wife. John has been trained to remain quite and absolutely still while in Command Position. He takes a kind of pride that only a truly submissive man can understand by pleasing me in this manner. Yes, requiring CP may be kink, but then so what. This is a part of how I as a mistress wife chose to discipline my husband. It is a basic way of teaching a man obedience, and enforcing your authority on an every day basis.
Like kneeling before a wife being put in Command Position is a transforming experience. These simple acts help set the boundaries of determining who gives orders and who receives orders. And, as much as I love John, I know that he needs these exercises each and every day. It is a way of reminding him that he is the slave and that I am his owner. And, it is also my way of telling him that I love him all the more for surrendering himself to me. Never forget that being a mistress wife is first and foremost about love and caring for you man. It is about giving of yourself in a way that very few women understand. And, I am so proud of having a daughter that has learned to be a loving mistress to her husband. In her husband's eyes I can see the glow-the way he looks forward to her every word-to her every directive no matter how simple or mundane.
Kathy
I'm sorry for coming to this late but I haven't been online as much as I used to be.
To answer your question on gender, voting, and maturity, it would be necessary to ask whether you think generalizations on maturity are a factor in voting competence? How is a mature person of either gender with no knowledge of politics any more competent to make a good decision in the voting booth than someone who perhaps lacks the maturity to keep their room clean, but lives for politics and reads up on it voraciously?
I know plenty of people from both genders who are well past the age of having their maturity questioned who are clueless when it comes to political issues.
Perhaps if the issue is voting.....maybe a standard competency test should be required before access to the polling booth is permitted? (I don't see this having the slightest chance of ever passing into law though.) If it did, it would be interesting to see the breakdown of what genders and ages routinely pass the test and which don't.
It's an interesting but moot question though. No one in politics wants a savvy voting constituency.
You are all taking this far too seriously. Lighten up.
Femdom Led Relationships should be strict but there also needs to be joy, even if that joy comes from total Domination & submission. Dommes do your job and be the boss in all things including voting rights. Problem solved.
It should not even be open to debate.
All of us should take a lesson from British Kink.
Femdom should be strict at times, but it is meant to improve our lives. We all need more fun in life, but some times the burdens of making a living and doing all of the things we need to do take the fun out. We should all take the time to be silly. just for fun I might put John in his princess outfit today.
Love, Kathy
Dear Mistress Kathy,
Why bother with voting? Why not have a
Queen ruling over the Matriarchal realm?
Thank You also Mistress Amanda and Mistress Linda.
I would love to cook a meal for You Mistress Linda.
A poet
Kathy I have to say I agree with British Kink. And I especially love yiur last remark about having fun too although once my wife reads this(as she will) I’m a bit worried about the princess outfit. Yesterday I was out cleaning gutters but forgot my collar was still on. I had a long conversation with my neighbor unaware he was looking directly at my collar. My wife will give me growling then she will crack up laughing. It’s all very US. Thanks to everyone. My wife is going to write her thoughts on Keys great book too. D&SNZ
Ms Kathy,
Your blog lately has been going great. I feel we are finally discussing the important things.
Alex
Kathy,
I know as fact some Women do REALLY enjoy the whips and chains thing. I get it, a slave should be well domesticated whether or not Mistress wields Her whip BUT to say Women aren't into it at all is just false. You once said, if I recall correctly, that the reason You don't whip is because You know You'd get carried away too much with the whip in Your marriage, but loved it in the studio. Is that correct? If it is, I don't blame You. And as You wisely point out, Femdom is meant to bring U/us A/all fun and improve O/our lives. So I would say Ladies, crack those whips!!!!!
Linda
Hello,
I know this question might infuriate some, but it's very important.
What is your take on arranged marriages for boys? Would it be OK for a submissive boy to be arranged into a marriage with a Mistress, maybe quite older than him, if that Mistress is into it?
So how often do you crack the whip or swish a crop with your slave Linda?
And yes, to some degree we are all products of our experiences. And, another yes, it was mentioned a number of years ago that perhaps I could get into the whipping thing. That idea concerned me because no matter what happened I did not want to learn to like hurting another person. It is not me. It is not the person I ever want to become.
On that very early conversation with Tara-the one in which she invited me to the studio-she asked if I was offended by male nudity. No, I responded. My thought was I am a big girl, I have been with men before and know what they look like. Of course you all know the story that I was greeted by two men who were wearing practically nothing. What I don't remember saying was that for a couple of minutes or so my gaze was frozen in one direction as if trying to look past these men. Tara noticed. She sent the two men away for a few minutes so that we could talk. What she told me next surprised me. 'These men want to be naked for women-they especially want the feeling that mistress is requiring them to be naked." "If they had their way' she told me 'they would want to be kept as naked slaves by a female owner.' That was my introduction to the studio.
How do women feel when males are naked or nearly naked while they are fully dressed themselves? My partner and I went to a party one time where there was a dress code for subs but not for dominants. She wore long pants and a sweatshirt while I wore just a pair of briefs. She certainly seemed to like the arrangement.
Stewart
For Stewart,
Baby, your question is little 'off' from what we have been talking about, but once again it might be a fun topic.
Some of the answer depends on what your guy look like under the shirt. If he is well built, excess body hair trimmed or removed a woman might feel good about showing him off to her friends. If, on the other hand he has a large over grown tummy she would probably wish that the shirt and pants stayed on.
Love, Kathy
Thanks Kathy. I am lucky enough not to have an overgrown tummy. I guess body hair is a matter of taste, my partner has never asked me to shave it. She said I looked ok in my briefs, she much prefers them to boxers.
Stewart
Kathy,
I don't think cute little Stewart's question was really that off topic. As You say, it might make for a fun subject. But I think it also fits perfectly into our topic, because it's really just how the second sex wants to take it's proper roll as being our loved and lovely little ones. They WANT to be second to the Women, to feel like sex objects, not voting. They want to be loved but also objectified sexually. That's what they want. Your answer was spot on; it's about whether the Women enjoy the particular boy performing as what he is, Our sex object. Boys, be slim, cute and obedient - don't vote, make dinner! Dance! Be submissive. Express yourselves totally, make Us proud. Be beautiful. We Women are looking!
Linda
Ms Kathy,
I think Your observation about some boys wanting to be naked around clothed Women is called CFNM.
CFNM is an important part of the Femdom lifestyle and there are many people into it. There are even CFNM parties. CFNM stands for "Clothed Females naked men".
I think the reason boys are into it is because they want to feel sexualized. They are tired of being told by society that Women are "Girls" and that they are the sex that "men" act like predators on. They are tired of being the ones that "chase" the Women and instead want to be chased, hunted if you will. They want to be looked at, they want to feel they are attractive sexually and they want to feel desired. They want to feel they can be desired by Women, make Women lusty and give Women a fun time without worrying about "how can I make Her FINALLY be a LITTLE interested"? In CFNM the Women are the interested sex, boys are interesting, and to interest a Woman is to be in the submissive position because She is the one that acts upon that interest, the one that leads. The boy submits, but is also not rejected; he is instead treated pretty much like what Hollywood would expect a naked WOMAN to be treated in a pack of hungry boys.
That's why I love the answer you gave. You totally turned the table on the boys with your answer; just like in Hollywood the answer would be "get a skinny Girl" your answer was "get a skinny boy". Women are not just playing, they are also there to have FUN. They have fun by getting an attractive boy to perform for them. For the boys, the fun is in BEING the fun for the Women. It's total role reversal, and it's liberating for both sides. The Women get to dominate, the boys get to be sexual objects and dominated. CFNM is especially interesting for people into what's called Sexual-Role-Reversal. Sexual Roll Reversal is one of the most liberating features of Femdom, the one that breaks the patriarchal strict sexual roles and allows for more liberty for the boys AND for the Women. It's not THAT different from only Women voting.
Does that make sense?
Alex
Ms Kathy,
You mention 3 beauty attributes you look for:
1) "well built,
2) excess body hair trimmed or removed"
and the third is:
3)"if (the entertainment object) has a large over grown tummy she would probably wish that the shirt and pants stayed on."
I think these 3 are very refreshing. 2 and 3 are clear role-reversal! That's especially true for 2.
What is your take on bikini area wax? I think it really encourages submissiveness, makes a point of who's the boss and makes that area less offensive to watch and fondle. On the other hand, pubic hair is a Female sign of being the Dominant sex.
Linda
Thank all of you for the comments. We are getting away from the topic, but I will try to contribute.
In the studio the men generally wore panties if they wore anything at all. For me it became quite normal to see men of all sizes and shapes in cute little lazy panties. Somehow the thought was that wearing panties made it easier for men to be submissive. Many of the men who have written to me indicate that they also wear panties on a daily basis instead of traditional men's underwear. I wondered how Stewart would have felt about the party if his girlfriend had brought him in panties instead of briefs. Either way my guess is that he remained close at hand to his girlfriend for most of the party. Men tend to feel very vulnerable at functions like the one Stewart attended. They tend to huddle in close to their mistress for security and protection.
As a college girl I liked the feeling of being would a guy who had a day or two of stubble on his face. For me it looked and felt so manly. Some chest hair on a man is fine, but too much of it is gross. And, in general I like John to keep all of his hairy areas well trimmed and neat. Some part of the advice that Key gave men was not to louse their manliness as they looked to their wives for leadership. This is good advice as many women feel their guy will become less manly as a follower. Is there truth to this I am not really sure. What I do believe is that dressing a man in feminine things brings out his submissive nature. How would Stewart have felt is his girlfriend brought him to the party in panties with a big ribbon in his hair? Would he have going to the party? Supposed she ordered him?
In the early part of our femdom relationship I would sometimes push the envelope requiring John to do things he really didn't want to do. It was sometimes a way of punishing him. It was sometimes a way to show him that I was really the boss. In the early part of the blog I talked about the trip to NY. He gave me backtalk as I was completing a purchase. Just there on the counter was a display of large hair ribbons intended for little girls. I picked one up, payed for it, and had him put in on right in the store. The sales girl giggled at him, and so did a lot of other people, but he wore it for the rest of the day.
It was only that evening in the hotel room that he was allowed to take it off. At the end of the day I told him that I was pleaded with him because of the way he accepted punishment. If you man does something good tell him.. Love, Kathy
Love, Kathy
Hairy women? Yuck, what a turn-off. I pity a man who ends up with such a woman. She won't have him, sub or not, long.
Some interesting thoughts Ms Kathy.
First of all, what is the difference between panties and briefs? Some cities have transit systems where the cars run on tracks that are partly underground and partly on or alongside the streets on the surface. When the vehicle is underground it is a subway car, when it is running along the street it is a streetcar. A few years ago I was in the mens underwear department of a local store. Two women were passing by and one of them remarked what pretty patterns the underpants had, they were just like women's panties. From the tone of her voice, she found it positive.
Of course, some panties have lace etc., which does distinguish them from male briefs. If my girlfriend had insisted that I wear a pair like that to the party, I would not have objected, although I do not have a fetish for women's underwear.
You are right that I stayed close to my girlfriend during the party. I did not really have much choice. Apart from my little black briefs I was wearing a collar and leash. The leash is fairly long, but when she wanted me to move she held it short and pulled it down so I had to walk close behind her and keep my head bowed. This could be considered humiliating but at the same time I felt proud to be her leashed submissive.
Stewart.
Sorry Ms Linda, I meant to reply to you in my last comment but real life intervened. Thanks for calling me cute! I think you are right, a lot of us boys do want to feel like sex objects. We like to wear pretty clothes, especially briefs/panties and we like to have our bottoms pinched!
Stewart
In flr the mistress will make that call if the male votes or not and any true submissive male will happly be told who and what to vote for.and do as told ...i can see this playing out mistress snaps her fingers to put her slave in command postion and then tells him when we go to vote slave you will do as i tell you and will only vote for who i say to vote for.
you know as my slave you dont have any say in this i give the orders you obey its that simple now kiss my feet then back to cleanng the kitchen floor on your hands and knees
The most liberal voters are younger voters. So raising the voting age for men could effectively mean disenfranchising liberal votes. The Left has always pushed for the lowest possible voting age in all the countries of the world. Also, the Left would rather give everyone a token vote, counting on the ability to manipulate the masses to get whatever outcome they like, so that there is an aura of legitimacy. It is trendier to do things this way.
Not allowing men to vote has overtones of female supremacy that is at odds with the concept of gender fluidity, the idea that everyone can have a role in society not predetermined by their gender. That is why the Left loves why when women act like men and men act like women. Career women are the most common everyday embodiment of that, and the transsexual thing represents the most dedicated, hard core embodiment of gender fluidity, with all different flavors in between.
Joel
Little Stewart,
I always knew it and I dared say it. Thanks for backing me up.
I don't like to pinch boy's butts but I know many Women do. They should have the right to, since it's basically always consensual. At least in a Femdom community it should be a given.
Linda
Joel,
You talk about how the left might not like boys not voting. Well, at least there should be a right wing opposing male suffrage and the left can oppose that right wing. That would be a sane society - one in which there is more than one opinion. The problem is when everybody thinks the same (in this case that "men should vote". Why? Where are all the voices saying they should focus on housekeeping and being pretty?)
Linda
Ms Kathy,
I LOVE the idea of panties. I think it's so sexy!
Alex
Men should be able to vote and have civil rights. But men who want to submit should also be allowed to.
Every city should have an outreach group for women who want to be dominant and men who want to submit where they can meet. Craigslist personals just closed, I met 2 or 3 dominant women that way but it didn't lead anywhere.
Men should be able to wear a collar, panties or other distinctive dress without ridicule. At parties the males should wear speedos or short pants to show off their legs or bodies for women to stare or look at.
I don't expect that to take place but a support group would be good. There aren't many women who want submissive men or they don't realize its an option. Most of the kink sites are still unfriendly to sub men so is society. Would you want a submissive police officer or some other types of jobs, a submissive CEO, teacher, or politician? It doesn't work.
Until women openly start accepting it in large numbers there won't be any acceptance.
NJ guy
For NJ guy you are so right about the need for support groups. Too many women are only interested in what is called financial domination. They really want a man's money, but not the man.
love, Kathy
I also agree with NJ about support groups and about males wearing tight-fitting briefs or shorts at parties. Hopefully sub males will one day be able to come out of the closet the same way gays are now doing.
There was a royal wedding today in England, very traditional. Some day I hope femdom marriage will be socially acceptable, just like gay marriage is accepted in some jurisdictions today. I can imagine the ceremony: the groom will be scantily dressed and will promise to obey the bride. When they have been declared married, she will cuff his hands behind his back, collar and leash him, and lead him away to a life of submission to her.
richard.
Ms Kathy,
I agree - findom is stupid. It shouldn't be part of Femdom.
For Anonymous, Thank you for commenting, but I am not sure about findom?
Love, Kathy
"Some day I hope femdom marriage will be socially acceptable, just like gay marriage is accepted in some jurisdictions today."
I also hope that someday our favored type of relationship becomes socially acceptable, even if not predominant.
I wish that this would become the case before my daughters marry.
This blog has sadly turned from a Femdom one into a feminist one.
Femdom and feminism are not the same thing. Feminists tend to despise men. Real Femdoms love men - well, the ones they make their slaves.
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